Comments for Fanny's Clicker Dog Blog http://www.fannygott.com Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:07:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 Comment on Some of my Thoughts on Shaping by Langwell1828@gmail.com http://www.fannygott.com/some-of-my-thoughts-on-shaping#comment-7171 Langwell1828@gmail.com Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:47:50 +0000 http://www.fannygott.com/?p=107#comment-7171 Good day. Initial I would like to say that I genuinely like your blog, just determined it last week but I've been following it ever since then. I seem to acknowledge with most of your thinkings and beliefs and this post is no different. completely Thank you to get a excellent blog and I hope you preserve up the great perform. If you do I will keep on to browse through it. Use a wonderful evening. Good day. Initial I would like to say that I genuinely like your blog, just determined it last week but I’ve been following it ever since then.

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]]> Comment on Some videos by DogNerd http://www.fannygott.com/some-videos#comment-7082 DogNerd Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:20:37 +0000 http://www.fannygott.com/?p=110#comment-7082 I get such inspiration from watching all your videos! They really help me get off my lazy butt and train my dog even when I'd rather not. I do have a question for you...what breeder did you get Pogue and Shejpa from? I'm looking into getting a working cocker as my next dog and am currently very much in the research stage. I get such inspiration from watching all your videos! They really help me get off my lazy butt and train my dog even when I’d rather not.
I do have a question for you…what breeder did you get Pogue and Shejpa from? I’m looking into getting a working cocker as my next dog and am currently very much in the research stage.

]]> Comment on Adding a Cue by Nat http://www.fannygott.com/adding-a-cue#comment-7032 Nat Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:29:07 +0000 http://www.fannygott.com/?p=109#comment-7032 I like your reasoning! In the past I've usually added the cue just as the dog begins the behaviour, but not usually before. It's never really been something that I've thought a lot about. Next time I'll try adding the cue before the behaviour, though! I like your reasoning! In the past I’ve usually added the cue just as the dog begins the behaviour, but not usually before. It’s never really been something that I’ve thought a lot about. Next time I’ll try adding the cue before the behaviour, though!

]]> Comment on Adding a Cue by Laura, Lance, and Vito http://www.fannygott.com/adding-a-cue#comment-7031 Laura, Lance, and Vito Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:22:36 +0000 http://www.fannygott.com/?p=109#comment-7031 I agree with you 100%! I never add a cue until I'm happy with the behavior. And then I add it right before I think the dog is going to do it. I also think that saying "good sit" after the dog has sat is completely ridiculous. I think dog's view cues as actions not as positions, so "good sit" would be viewed as praise and then another cue to sit again, which the dog can't do since his butt is already on the ground! I agree with you 100%! I never add a cue until I’m happy with the behavior. And then I add it right before I think the dog is going to do it.

I also think that saying “good sit” after the dog has sat is completely ridiculous. I think dog’s view cues as actions not as positions, so “good sit” would be viewed as praise and then another cue to sit again, which the dog can’t do since his butt is already on the ground!

]]> Comment on Training tip #1 - Adding a New Cue by Adding a Cue at Fanny’s Clicker Dog Blog http://www.fannygott.com/training-tip-1-adding-a-new-cue#comment-7028 Adding a Cue at Fanny’s Clicker Dog Blog Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:52:01 +0000 http://www.fannygott.com/?p=93#comment-7028 [...] the behavior, or after the behavior (just before the click and/or reward). As I pointed out in this post last summer, I choose to add the cue before the behavior. It just makes much more sense to me than [...] […] the behavior, or after the behavior (just before the click and/or reward). As I pointed out in this post last summer, I choose to add the cue before the behavior. It just makes much more sense to me than […]

]]> Comment on Is shaping for all dogs? by Tricia http://www.fannygott.com/is-shaping-for-all-dogs#comment-6961 Tricia Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:49:33 +0000 http://www.fannygott.com/?p=106#comment-6961 Sorry I have come to this discussion a little late. I think the real issue between shaping Vs luring is as Susan Garrett says. With luring the value stays with the lure and never transfers to the behaviour. Shaping encourages the dog to see value in the behaviour, so from my point of view I want to see my dogs enjoying the learning process and loving to perform a behaviour rather than totally focusing on the lure. I have seen so many dogs in classes whose handlers complain that they will do nothing unless they can see the lure. Sorry I have come to this discussion a little late. I think the real issue between shaping Vs luring is as Susan Garrett says. With luring the value stays with the lure and never transfers to the behaviour. Shaping encourages the dog to see value in the behaviour, so from my point of view I want to see my dogs enjoying the learning process and loving to perform a behaviour rather than totally focusing on the lure. I have seen so many dogs in classes whose handlers complain that they will do nothing unless they can see the lure.

]]> Comment on Is shaping for all dogs? by Marge Rogers http://www.fannygott.com/is-shaping-for-all-dogs#comment-6712 Marge Rogers Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:44:43 +0000 http://www.fannygott.com/?p=106#comment-6712 Good point about the research. I was just rereading Pamela Reid's "Excel-erated Learning" when I posted my comments. When contrasting prompting and shaping (p.141), she says, "The dog will not learn any differently than if you had shaped the behavior. Some people are under the impression that shaped responses are learned 'better' or retained longer than prompted responses. There is absolutely no evidence to support this view." I was trying to summarize that statement in comments. I hope I did not mislead. Also, my comment on "give it a try" comes right after my statement on luring. I intended to say "give shaping a try." That's what I get for commented late at night. :-) If I wasn't clear above - I love shaping. We shape dogs all the time, whether we know it or not. :-) Good point about the research. I was just rereading Pamela Reid’s “Excel-erated Learning” when I posted my comments. When contrasting prompting and shaping (p.141), she says, “The dog will not learn any differently than if you had shaped the behavior. Some people are under the impression that shaped responses are learned ‘better’ or retained longer than prompted responses. There is absolutely no evidence to support this view.” I was trying to summarize that statement in comments. I hope I did not mislead. Also, my comment on “give it a try” comes right after my statement on luring. I intended to say “give shaping a try.” That’s what I get for commented late at night. :-) If I wasn’t clear above - I love shaping. We shape dogs all the time, whether we know it or not. :-)

]]> Comment on Is shaping for all dogs? by Fanny http://www.fannygott.com/is-shaping-for-all-dogs#comment-6707 Fanny Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:21:13 +0000 http://www.fannygott.com/?p=106#comment-6707 Marge: Could you guide me to the research made on luring vs. shaping? I haven't seen any research of that kind and I would love to see it. I love science based training, but you must never buy what research says until you know exactly what they have researched. Marge: Could you guide me to the research made on luring vs. shaping? I haven’t seen any research of that kind and I would love to see it. I love science based training, but you must never buy what research says until you know exactly what they have researched.

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